Meeting Minutes July 2004
MINUTES OF THE
MEETING OF THE
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
OF GARDEN CITY, UTAH
The Garden City Planning & Zoning Commission held their regularly scheduled meeting on Wednesday, July 7, 2004 at the Garden City Office Building located at 145 W. Center (Logan Rd.). Commission Chairman House opened the meeting at 7:05 p.m.
Commission Members Present:
Ken Hansen, Mayor
Mayor Hansen called for an Executive Session.
The regular Planning & Zoning meeting opened at 7:55 p.m.
The Planning and Zoning Commission review ordinance #04-11. The Sanitation Department would like to make sure the ordinance states no dead animals allowed in the dumpsters. The change was made. The Planning & Zoning wondered what to do with the dead animals if they can’t go in the dumpsters. UDOT doesn’t always pick them up off the side of the road.
Commission Member Maynes said the Wildlife Urban Interface codebook would be good for the Planning & Zoning to look at. It talks a lot about fire, health and safety.
Mayor Hansen said he’s heard that because of terrorists, fireworks may only be available to professionals in the future.
There was discussion about no open burns being allowed unless people have a permit.
There was discussion about the abatement of garbage ordinance. Mayor Hansen said there will be a Public Hearing next month. If there are no major negative comments, it will go into effect in January.
Commission Member Hodges made the motion that we pass on Ordinance #04-11 to the Town Council for review. Commission Member Bourne seconded the motion. All in favor and the motion carried.
Ordinance #11B, Land Use
Commission Member Maynes stated that until the Planning & Zoning decides what to do, the ordinance approval of #11-B should be tabled. He said we need to spell out what we want to do.
Ordinance #11C Recreational Vehicles
There was discussion about the camping sites at Rendezvous Park. Commission Chairman House thought there were about 12 to 14 sites per acre, but there is a lot of open space, which would make it about 8 sites per acre.
Mayor Hansen said he talked with Ray Elliott about the density of campgrounds. Mr. Elliott thought 12 sites per acre would be a good compromise if the Town decides to change the ordinance. There were no estimates on the density of Camperworld’s campground.
Commission Member Maynes said the Planning & Zoning needs to find out what is existing and bring everyone into compliance.
Mayor Hansen said as he drives through BlueWater, it’s livable, but tight.
Commission Member Moldenhauer said he thinks 12 sites per acre would be livable. KOA just has acreage that can’t be touched. Mayor Hansen said everyone that stays at the campgrounds, brings 3 axles worth of toys. The vehicles are getting so big that campgrounds are having to expand to be able to accommodate them.
The county has 15 sites per acre for campgrounds in their ordinance.
Commission Member Maynes would also like to table the approval of ordinance #11-C until the Planning & Zoning knows what they want to do with it.
Mayor Hansen said Attorney Tony Martineau talked to him about the Master Plan. He liked our Master Plan. Typically, the Master Plan sets goals for the Town. Our Master Plan shows what roads and infrastructure we want. If the Town would ever have to go to court, he would go by what’s in our ordinance book.
ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, Sharlotte Wride
Commission Member Maynes asked how restrictive the Planning & Zonings wants to be with the 300 W. area. Do we want to be like Park City? If we want to find a standard of our own, we need to have some standards.
Commission Member Hodges said we don’t want to be as strict as Park City. We don’t have the money year round like they do. People that come in with an investment can’t justify the few months it takes to make their living.
Council Member Wride said when they started with the architectural standards committee, they all talked about what they would like on 300 W. They’ve simplified what they originally wanted. She went over the paper, which she passed around.
Commission Member Hodges wondered if the section of the paper, which talks about standards for commercial zones, will work where Hyrum Lantz has already had his project passed. He wasn’t required to do it.
Mayor Hansen suggested explaining that the standards were only for 300’ back on 300 West. He would have to get legal advice.
Commission Member Hodges thinks the standards should be for the whole commercial area, not just 300 West. Commission Member Maynes passed out pictures of buildings he’s built in Park City for the last 20 years. Commission Member Hodges said they look wonderful, but she doesn’t know how we can write an ordinance for just 300 W.
Council Member Wride asked if the Planning & Zoning Commission would like to take the standards home and study them.
There was discussion about sidewalks. Council Member Wride wondered about having stamped and colored sidewalks. Commission Member Maynes suggested not having them stamped because it would be hard for snow removal.
Council Member Wride also wondered about having meandering sidewalks with benches and vegetation. She would like to get these standards ready and in the ordinance book. That way, when someone wants to put in a sidewalk, it’s stated what will be expected to be done.
Mayor Hansen asked about having the property developer put in the sidewalk. He said UDOT has suggested to him that when a new business comes in, the Town should require them to put in the improvements.
Commission Member Moldenhauer said the town should be in charge of placing the sidewalks, just to keep the same integrity throughout town.
Commission Member Maynes said we need to set the standard and have the businesses do the sidewalks themselves. They should have two or three choices; stamped, colored, etc. Commission Member Hunt wondered about the look of the sidewalks being different. Commission Member Maynes said it shouldn’t matter what they look like as long as they’re all 6’ wide. They should blend in together. He also suggested making it mandatory to put re-bar in the sidewalks.
Council Member Wride asked if the Planning & Zoning feels the architectural standards for 300 W. are too tough. Commission Chairman House would like to know from the attorney if it would work to use them. Commission Member Bourne said it would be interesting to see what Park City does.
Commission Member Maynes said he would like to see the theme as the exterior of their buildings. He doesn’t know if it should be architectural standards or aesthetic requirements. He will find out from Park City.
Mayor Hansen suggested going more with the theme like Jackson. It’s more of what our town is like, than Park City. Commission Member Maynes said we need to look at Jackson and Park City, and blend the two together, somehow.
Commission Member Hodges asked about KOA putting in RV spots back by the fence. Commission Member Moldenhauer said they’re just for storage. No one stays in them and there are no hookups. Commission Member Hodges said that she was contacted by property owners to ask that question.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the special Planning & Zoning Commission meeting of May 4, 2004 were presented. Commission Member Maynes made the motion to approve them as presented. Commission Member Moldenhauer seconded the motion. All in favor and the motion carried.
The minutes of the regular Planning & Zoning Commission meeting of May 4,2004 were presented. Commission Member Hodges made the motion to approve them as presented. Commission Member Hunt seconded the motion. All in favor and the motion carried.
The minutes of the special Planning & Zoning Commission meeting of June 2, 2004 were presented. Commission Member Hodges made the motion to approve them as presented. Commission Member Bourne seconded the motion. All in favor and the motion carried.
The minutes of the regular Planning & Zoning Commission meeting of June 2, 2004 were presented. Commission Member Hodges made the motion to approve them as presented. Commission Member Bourne seconded the motion. All in favor and the motion carried.
Commission Member Moldenhauer made the motion to adjourn the meeting. Commission Member Hodges seconded the motion. All in favor and the meeting adjourned at 9:10 p.m.