Meeting Minutes 2008


MINUTES OF THE

PUBLIC HEARING OF THE

PLANNING COMMISSION OF

GARDEN CITY, UTAH

 

 

The Garden City Planning Commission held a Public Hearing on Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at the Garden City Conference Center, Building A, located at 69 N. Paradise Parkway, Garden City, Utah. Commission Chair Huefner opened the meeting at 6:45 p.m.

 

Commission Members Present:

 

Jennifer Huefner, Chair

Pat Argyle

Greg Bills

Scott Gough

 

Others Present:

 

Anita Weston

 

 

 

ORDINANCES #08-17, 08-18

 

Commission Chair Huefner said the reason for the Public Hearing is to update the requirements for cul-de-sac’s. This is being done because of new requirements of the fire district.

 

The Commission said one ordinance says 96’ diameter, the other says 90’. They wondered if there was a standard on the diameter and thought it should be 90’.

 

Commission Member Gough said when Dan Kurek was in last time, he wanted 90’, so they agreed that it should be 90’.

 

APPROVED: ATTEST:

 

 

 

_____________________________________ _______________________________

Jennifer Huefner, Chair Assistant Clerk

 

 

 

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MINUTES OF THE

PLANNING COMMISSION OF

GARDEN CITY, UTAH

 

The Planning Commission held their regularly scheduled meeting on Wednesday, November 5, 2008 at the Garden City Conference Center, Building A, located at 69 N. Paradise Parkway in Garden City, Utah. Commission Chair Huefner opened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.

 

Commission Members Present:

 

Jennifer Huefner, Chair

Pat Argyle

Greg Bills

Scott Gough

Frank Smith

 

Others Present:

 

Anita Weston

Brian House

Don Webb

Mark Daines

 

MINUTES

 

The minutes of the regular meeting of October 1, 2008 were presented. Commission Member Gough made the motion to accept the minutes of October 1, 2008, Garden City meeting of the Planning & Zoning. Commission Member Argyle seconded the motion. All in favor and the motion carried.

 

The minutes of the Public Hearing of October 1, 2008 were presented. Commission Member Argyle made the motion that we accept the minutes of the Public Hearing of October 1, 2008 as specified. Commission Member Bills seconded the motion. All in favor and the motion carried.

 

CONFLICT OF INTEREST

 

There were no conflicts stated.

 

Commission Chair Huefner would like to move the Ordinance approval to later in the meeting.

 

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PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FOR PICKLEVILLE COMMONS, Don Webb

 

Mr. Webb said he spent some time trying to realize why there’s been so much trouble getting this through. He wonders if it’s because they don’t really know what they are. They can’t be a PUD because of acreage. There are issues with the open space and parking because they’re being termed a PUD. He wondered if they need to decide what they are first. The Commission said yes.

 

Commission Chair Huefner said they just need to be a regular subdivision with the special requirement of a condo or townhome under the ordinance. Commission Member Gough said they need to know for sure if they are being used for rentals or are they for sale. They need to know for parking.

 

Mr. Webb said they are confused with where they fit with the parking ordinance. Their units are so small so they don’t know how they work.

 

Mr. Daines said if they take the whole project and turn them in to nightly rentals, they only need one parking space for the small units and two for the larger units. The nightly rentals are per bedroom. Commission Member Argyle said if they have a pull out couch, they’re adding more sleeping space. There was discussion about the sleeping space. That and the parking will be determined by the Building Inspector.

 

Commission Member Gough said they will need to show what the maximum number of people and how much parking is allowed. If only one parking space is allowed, they may want to add more to be safe.

 

Mr. Daines said if this is used as strictly rentals, they would be required to have 30 parking stalls. They have 58. Mr. Webb said by doing that, they have lost some open space based on a PUD. Commission Chair Huefner said they won’t have to follow the PUD requirement. They have 52% open space.

 

Mr. Webb said they would like to be able to take out some of the parking and put in a nice entrance. But to maximize the parking, they’ve added 4 more stalls.

 

Commission Member Bills feel they’re on the right track.

 

Commission Chair Huefner said when they come in for their final, to check the condo box on the application and they’ll know it is part of the subdivision ordinance. She said she’ll make some changes so it will be more clear.

 

Mr. Webb said the engineer did the water study and they’ll need to pay the town $17,000 for water. Council Member House said they will need to help participate with a tank. It was recommended for them to go in with Raspberry Ridge, Shundahai or Lighthouse Pointe for their water storage.

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Mr. Webb said they have talked with the fire marshal and he would like them to put a hydrant on their side of the highway.

 

Mr. Daines said he talked with Justin of the sanitation department. They are working with them on the placement for dumpsters.

 

Mr. Webb said their small units still have the same impact fee as a 5,000 sq. ft. home so they’ll need to spread out their cost which really bumps the price up.

 

The Planning Commission said they would forego the landscaping to put in the extra parking. He’ll be glad he did that. They didn’t know what the Town Council would prefer.

 

Commission Chair Huefner said they feel everything has been addressed from the concerns of the engineer.

 

Mr. Webb said the cost of each unit is about $20-30,000 more than he thought it would be with all the extra fees he didn’t know about.

 

Commission Chair Huefner said there are only a few things that could be added as conditions for their preliminary. When they come in for their final, they’ll need to show their elevations and the CC&R’s need to be in place.

 

Commission Member Smith made a recommendation to the Town Council that Pickleville Commons be approved Preliminary approval for a subdivision with the following conditions: the placement of the garbage dumpsters, the fire hydrant, the water being worked out with the city as far as storage and for the purchase of the culinary use. Commission Member Argyle seconded the motion. All in favor and the motion carried.

 

Commission Chair Huefner said they will need to go to the Town Council next week for their approval. It would be nice to have those changes made for the Town Council. Then they can move on to their final approval.

 

ORDINANCES

 

Commission Member Gough said on the ordinance that is written in bold, just get rid of it; if someone is doing a cul de sac right away or a lot split, they just have to follow the road way cul de sac. Just get rid of that completely. We also need to get rid of the 96’.

 

#O8-18

Commission Member Argyle made the motion for ordinance #08-18 that we eliminate it and have people refer to Ordinance #11A-200, which is #08-17. Commission Member

Gough seconded the motion. All in favor and the motion carried.

 

 

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#08-17

Commission Member Argyle made the motion on ordinance #08-17, and we will do away with the bold – it says “a cul de sac right of way for a subdivision shall be a minimum of 50’ and a minimum of 30’ for a lot split. We will do away with that and it will all be cul-de-sac’s will be 90’ in diameter instead of 96’. It will now be 90’. Commission Member

Smith seconded the motion. All in favor and the motion carried.

 

 

TRAINING

 

Commission Chair Huefner said there’s no training tonight.

 

MISCELLANEOUS

 

Commission Chair Huefner said she appreciated Commission Member Bills going to the Town Council meeting last month. Commission Member Bills said they stressed some confusion with the 70/30 open space. They said there never has been nor will there ever be anything different than the 70/30.

 

Commission Chair Huefner said she talked with the Mayor and the clerks. She requested that we go to digital. The town will buy a couple laptops and we can bring our own to look at the ordinances digitally. We will each have our own digital copy of the ordinances and can query topics. It will be a read-only file.

 

ADJOURNMENT

 

Commission Member Argyle made the motion to adjourn the meeting at 7:45 p.m.

 

 

 

APPROVED: ATTEST:

 

 

 

______________________________________ ______________________________

Jennifer Huefner, Chair Assistant Clerk

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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